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Grand Wizard
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Oh MJ!

Have you ever seen the movie PI? It's about this guy....I have not seen it in a really long time (we have it on DVD) But he is obsessed with numbers, specifically numbers to do with the stock market.

He does this "drilling holes in the head" thing to relieve the pain from all the thinking he does from the numbers that drive him crazy.

It's a good indie flick if you have not seen it. Very interesting.

Not something I'd do, but during a migraine I've thought about it when it that much pain!!!


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Kat--

Actually, leeches have a place in modern medicine. The hospital I used to work at, actually maintained a small aquarium for "sterile leeches". You could order them from this company; they were put onto an airliner first class in a sealed take out plate. We would have a taxi pick them up at the airport and bring them to the hospital. It was a real hoot the night the taxi driver was bound and determined to find out what kind of dinner was worth that kind of money. When I opened the plate and showed him, he almost fainted.

Among other uses, leeches can be used in situations such as amputated fingers which have been reattached. They put the artery back together as well as the biggest veins but blood flow back towards the heart is diminished at first. A leech will remove the excess blood if you stick him on the finger. By not allowing the blood to pool in the finger, you have a better chance of a successful reattachment.

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Sorry, didn't mean to offend! Eeker I know sometimes leeches and maggots and all kinds of things are used in modern medicine. Maybe even trepanning has a legitimate modern medical use. I don't know.

I was just trying to make the point that trepanation for migraines would be about as effective as leeches for migraines. I don't imaging drilling a hole in one's head would help a neurological disorder.

Eileen: I just saw Pi recently. I didn't take it as "relieve the pain from all the thinking he does from the numbers that drive him crazy." I saw it as migraines! Talk about procjecting myself onto a character!!! hahaha....
 
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I forgot all about the movie Pi! That was a pretty cool movie, actually. And I agree, it was migraine. We had a thread about it on the old forum a very, very long time ago, I think.

I think it's cool about the leeches and maggots being used in modern medicine. I saw a cool documentary clip on using maggots to clean up necrotic tissue after all kinds of powerful antibiotics had failed the patient. I think that kind of thing is fascinating from a scientific perspective.



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OMG- there's another person out there who's seen Pi?

And yes, I have thought about it as a migraine metaphor, usually right before the pain gets so bad that I'm flattened like a bus...



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Oh MJ!

Have you ever seen the movie PI? It's about this guy....I have not seen it in a really long time (we have it on DVD) But he is obsessed with numbers, specifically numbers to do with the stock market.

He does this "drilling holes in the head" thing to relieve the pain from all the thinking he does from the numbers that drive him crazy.

It's a good indie flick if you have not seen it. Very interesting.

Not something I'd do, but during a migraine I've thought about it when it that much pain!!!


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Hey, Jamie! Welcome to "Wizard"! Smiler



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Originally posted by dragondroolHOST:
Hey, Jamie! Welcome to "Wizard"! Smiler


Thanks, Droolie! I have to admit, I was looking for a few places to put vanity posts to get there tonight... Embarrassed

I'm a wizard. Poof- I wish I could make pain go buh-bye!


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Grand Wizard
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Yeah girl!! We gots it on DVD even!!!! I always thought migraine whenever I've watched it.

Oh and welcome to wizard!! LOL (we should have a little wizard icon, like a smilie with a wand! LOL)

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Originally posted by JamieHOST:
OMG- there's another person out there who's seen Pi?

And yes, I have thought about it as a migraine metaphor, usually right before the pain gets so bad that I'm flattened like a bus...



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Originally posted by EileenHOST:
Oh MJ!

Have you ever seen the movie PI? It's about this guy....I have not seen it in a really long time (we have it on DVD) But he is obsessed with numbers, specifically numbers to do with the stock market.

He does this "drilling holes in the head" thing to relieve the pain from all the thinking he does from the numbers that drive him crazy.

It's a good indie flick if you have not seen it. Very interesting.

Not something I'd do, but during a migraine I've thought about it when it that much pain!!!


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Ok, I may have to add Pi to my Netflix queue... you ladies have piqued my interest.

Sidebar: I don't think I've ever used that many Q's and U's in the same sentence.


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I don't see how I could have forgotten about this one, but on my last day of work, where I had worked for 9 years, I was conversing with the STORE manager about why I was leaving, explaining to her about my migraines. Her response was(and not even knowing my age)- "Maybe you"re going through menopause". Skillet Unbelievable!!( extremely unprofessional and subtlely insulting). I don't think this person was even intelligent though, so maybe I'll give her a break. Cool

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Grand Wizard
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Well I got a new one for ya....

My co workers daughter who is a migranuer is now selling herbalife or whatever it's called.

This girl used to be on Topamax and take Imitrex.

She came in the office and told my boss that since she started taking all this stuff from herbalife, she no longer needs the Topamax or Imitrex. Good for her! So boss wants her to tell me what she is taking, because some people seem to think what works for some, will work for all.

So I look over what she is taking......all she is doing is taking vitamins, things that cause you not to have allergies, and when she gets a migraine, she hops herself up on these engery things they sell that has L-taurine, Guarana, Caffeine, and Ginseng, just to name a few ingredients. She takes this with another pill that has the same ingredients in it and a couple advil.


Head BangingIf I were to take this stuff, it would CAUSE a migraine!!! the Guarana alone triggers me - not to mention the caffeine, caffeine and more caffeine on top of the coffee I drink during the day!! Skillet

So I say to her as she is trying to give me samples of all this stuff, "I can't take any of this "natural" stuff, everything you take triggers me for a migraine, but I am very happy it's working for you!!"

I mean don't get me wrong, if there was a way that I could get off preventives, I'd do it. But I just don't see that happening right now. And it would be great if people would get off my back about it and stop thinking that herbs (not that they are not helpful, I take melatonin every night and a multi vitamin every day) chiropractors, physical therapy, what else have I heard??? I can't think now, but I'm like, trust me, I know what I am doing here, I've been dealing with this for a long time. Thanks.


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Master
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I agree- I used to drink red bull- it had taurine in it which triggered migraines for me. Plus it's not good for your heart.

Valerie
 
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I can relate.
My mother-in-law told me her neighbor had migraines until her children grew up, then the "sick headaches" went away. Hair Raising

I tried a chiropractor and had one of the worst migraines of my life directly afterward. I ended up in the E-ward. My neurologist told me the neck manipulation can cause a stroke. I believe it!

My husband has had great luck for back pain though, he loved his chiropractor!
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Eileen -

Herbalife - Usana - Melaleuca - Nikken - Multi-level marketing! DON'T get me started! I have looked at many of the products, and it's not that they're not quality products. But the number of times people have told me if I just take their particular formulation of vitamins/herbs/nutriceuticals - you name it - if I just took their miracle pill my migraines would all go away! So if they have the one and only answer, the one formula that cures all, why do they have all that competition out there? I never did believe in the one-true-religion-for-everyone thing, and that applies to nutritional products too!

Good nutrition, vitamins, and carefully researched appropriate herbs are certainly good for us and some even have some Migraine-preventive qualities but I have doctors (and some of my own research) to decide what to take. Every one of these people who has approached me with their products I have looked at their formulation and said "that's not what my doctor recommends I take." There's one guy who I used to talk to, a business contact who sells Nikken, who I avoid like the plague now, because he'll say to me every time "When you're ready to get rid of those migraines and sinus infections, let me know..." Ready? Devil The nerve!!!!

Reply? Maybe I'll try "When you're ready to treat me with some respect, let me know..."

- Megs


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Grand Wizard
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Although I have to say, Melaleuca has some awesome lotions and laundry products. But I have never tried the suppliments they have.

Yeah, anyone who uses the "let me know when you are ready to be migraine free" bull on me - see ya later.


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