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On Sunday I had only been asleep for about 2.5 hours and woke up to sheer pain. I knew it was going to be a bad one and was caught off guard because I felt fine only hours ago. I took a Maxalt, prayed for myself (and for my family and you guys) and tried to sleep it off. An hour later, I took another Maxalt. I eventually fell asleep but was up again a few hours later in worse pain. I took Vicodan but it did nothing to relieve the pain.

By the time the sun was up, my head was in the toilet (something I normally don’t have to worry about). By now I am in tears and rocking back and forth in the bathroom the pain had become so intense.

DH came in and asked what he could do. (***the migraine spoke here, not the “real” me, so alerts are not necessary***) I told him I was finished with this pain and knew I could end it all very quickly. He left the bathroom and hid my gun from me because I was just so emotionally broken down he didn’t know what else to do besides listen to my rant, close the door so the other kids wouldn’t get scared, and rub my back and stay by my side.

I felt like I had hit rock bottom and was just sobbing and pulling on my hair and curled up on the bathroom floor. He wanted to take me to the hospital and I adamantly refused. I couldn’t move off the floor let alone climb into the car. Eventually, the “peak” subsided and I was able to do some deep breathing, “ending it all” far from my mind. I took phenagren to sleep and stayed in bed all day, still in pain.

I am in pain today but it is nothing compared to yesterday. I haven’t had a migraine like that in so long and pray that it doesn’t happen again for another long time. I can normally hold it together mentally and not talk about ending it all but when the pain gets to that point I mentally break down. Like the migraine has won the battle, not me. However, I am still fighting the war and will continue to do so.

Please understand, my boys have already lost their birth father in a motorcycle accident. I would never, never take my own life. It is not for me to decide when I die and hell doesn’t appeal to me. I would never want my kids or my husband to find me having taken my own life. I say all this because I don’t want everyone worried about my mental capacity. I am my back to my “normal” (whatever that is) self. Eeker

I created this post because, as embarrassed that I am to admit I would utter those words, I am sure that there are others of you out there who have done the same and I wanted to let you know you are not alone.

On the selfish side of it all, it helps to write down the feelings. Kind of like a mental release. It is also a reality check for me, it helps me put things back into perspective.

This is a disease, and not terminal as long as I take care of myself and continue to see my neuro and work on my treatment plan.

I have great kids, a great DH and all their love.

Thanks for listening. I am off to my cozy bed!


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Oh dear sweet Laura, I'm so sorry that you had such a difficult night last night. Group HugIt sounded so awful. Group Hug and some Heart. Oh I have definitely had nights like that. I feel as though I could've written your post. I have definitely felt like I like I wanted it to be all over. Where my DH sat with me until my irrational self left and my rational self eventually came back and realized that I can do this. It does just get tiring some times.

I know you don't want to leave your kids or your DH. Nor do I wnat ot leave my DH. It is isn't about that for me. It is wanting the pain to cease. I just want it to stop and I'm pissed that it won't.

When I get to that point, I have a list of verses/statements that I read or have my DH read to me. And they help. I don't know if you are a christian. If you are..I'll send you them. But they reassure me in those deep dark times of pain. It gives me something to hold onto and to move through that yucky place. And my DH reminds me that we've gotten through it before, we will again.

But, sweet Laura, you are not alone. Flower I have been there too. Group Hug

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Laura, I'm so glad you felt safe enough to come here and let out your emotions.

I'm glad you're feeling better. Please take care of yourself.


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I can't imagine anyone's gone through migraine pain without the thought of "ending it all" occuring to them. It's when you start to dwell on the idea, and especially if it gets to the point of making a plan or thinking about how to carry it out, that there's a serious problem. Or if you're thinking about it even when you're not in the midst of the pain.

I have a friend who only had one migraine in her life. She says it's a good thing there were no guns in the house at the time, because if there had been, she wouldn't be alive.

That said, on the "receiving end" of the comments, we have to take all of them seriously. We're not in a position to know how serious or persistent the person's thoughts of suicide are until we ask. Thanks for assuring us you are OK, Laura.

Thanks for addressing this topic.


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Laura -

My dear, dear Laura - Thank you for sharing. I am sure we've all been there and thought "I'm the only one who feels like this".

I've had one migraine like the one you describe. I was hysterical. I couldn't sleep, the pain was worse then any other one ever - 2 abortives, nothing. DH came home (he was just BF at the time) and was like "ER, NOW!" and I just couldn't do it. All I could think of was the bright lights and I just would rather die. This was the migraine that got me to try preventives - before this big one - I had no idea they existed.

So yeah, I think we all have these moments - like Nutcracker said, it's when the pain isn't there and you are still thinking like that - then that's a problem.

I hope you are having a much better day my dear!
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Kelly-Yes, please send them. Teri or one of the mods can give you my email, I don't want to post it here. I am spiritual in my own way.

I like how you mentioned being rational and irrational during such a severe migraine. Also, about just wanting the pain to end. You nailed it on the head!

Thanks for your love and support, it helps so very much!

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Oh dear sweet Laura, I'm so sorry that you had such a difficult night last night. Group HugIt sounded so awful. Group Hug and some Heart. Oh I have definitely had nights like that. I feel as though I could've written your post. I have definitely felt like I like I wanted it to be all over. Where my DH sat with me until my irrational self left and my rational self eventually came back and realized that I can do this. It does just get tiring some times.

I know you don't want to leave your kids or your DH. Nor do I wnat ot leave my DH. It is isn't about that for me. It is wanting the pain to cease. I just want it to stop and I'm pissed that it won't.

When I get to that point, I have a list of verses/statements that I read or have my DH read to me. And they help. I don't know if you are a christian. If you are..I'll send you them. But they reassure me in those deep dark times of pain. It gives me something to hold onto and to move through that yucky place. And my DH reminds me that we've gotten through it before, we will again.

But, sweet Laura, you are not alone. Flower I have been there too. Group Hug

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Thanx Deb

I cannot tell you how many times I read, reread, deleted and then finally just went with pure emotions. I finally realized that if I can't post it here, where else can I go?

I am so happy I found this family!

Slowly but surely I am getting rid of the beast.



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Laura, I'm so glad you felt safe enough to come here and let out your emotions.

I'm glad you're feeling better. Please take care of yourself.


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Eileen, funny how we can manage to be so stubborn about the ER when in such extreme pain huh? But, that says a lot about your DH, he knew what he was getting into!

I am still a determined little doobie about getting back on track with these things. Must be that stubborn part of me.

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Laura -

My dear, dear Laura - Thank you for sharing. I am sure we've all been there and thought "I'm the only one who feels like this".

I've had one migraine like the one you describe. I was hysterical. I couldn't sleep, the pain was worse then any other one ever - 2 abortives, nothing. DH came home (he was just BF at the time) and was like "ER, NOW!" and I just couldn't do it. All I could think of was the bright lights and I just would rather die. This was the migraine that got me to try preventives - before this big one - I had no idea they existed.

So yeah, I think we all have these moments - like Nutcracker said, it's when the pain isn't there and you are still thinking like that - then that's a problem.

I hope you are having a much better day my dear!
Group Hug Group Hug Heart Heart


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Nutcracker-Yeah, I am mentally better now. Can't say I am not a bit down about it all but I can safely say no more suicide thoughts going through my brain. Now just the pain.

I admit, I was so scared to post about this, first because I didn't want to seem so weak, second because I was afraid it may put the thought into peoples heads.

But, you are right....as long as it goes away, no plans are being made and it only is lingering when the pain just won't stop, it is semi-normal.

Thanks for your words of encouragement!!

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I can't imagine anyone's gone through migraine pain without the thought of "ending it all" occuring to them. It's when you start to dwell on the idea, and especially if it gets to the point of making a plan or thinking about how to carry it out, that there's a serious problem. Or if you're thinking about it even when you're not in the midst of the pain.

I have a friend who only had one migraine in her life. She says it's a good thing there were no guns in the house at the time, because if there had been, she wouldn't be alive.

That said, on the "receiving end" of the comments, we have to take all of them seriously. We're not in a position to know how serious or persistent the person's thoughts of suicide are until we ask. Thanks for assuring us you are OK, Laura.

Thanks for addressing this topic.


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Aww laura,
I know I'm "late" and that your already feeling better...
But I've been there. I Just wanted you to know that. I fully understand what it is to have what feels like 2 seperate entities talking....
the migraine and your rational self.. totally different!
Yes, I have harboured suicidal thoughts during my really bad migraines, and always felt like crap admitting it. (My husband knows its a bad day when he wakes me up in the morning, I roll over on my stomach, start crying and say "can't I just die?" )but my husband, and the forum have been there for me till darkness turned back into light..

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Glad you felt comfortable to bring up this subject, Laura.

I certainly understand where you were coming from- I think it's part of the chronic illness/disease state experience to get fed up and all sorts of emotions aren't unusual.

It's hard somedays to keep plugging along. The one thing the "rational me" knows is that it'll be better tomorrow or the day after that. But at the time of the migraine- well- of course the "rational Jamie" is shoved into a closet somewhere... I have to remember to drag "rational Jamie" out so I can stay ahead of the storm.

Talking about these feelings wouldn't put it into someone's head- just the thought that they weren't alone in having them, and being all alone.

Big hugs for all of us, and to all of us. Group Hug

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I think a great many of us have had moments either with migraine or some other ick where we've just wished it all was over. When I was slogging through that first hyperthyroid stretch of months, with the raging insomnia, exhaustion, and migraines to boot, there were many, many evenings that I actually prayed to not wake up in the morning. It wasn't at all that I wanted to die. It was just that there was no "off switch" for being in hyperdrive and being physically, emotionally, and mentally beaten to a pulp 24/7.

It was completely the disease process talking, not me. It didn't matter that I knew it wasn't rational. It didn't matter that I knew I didn't want to not be on the planet anymore. It didn't matter that I also knew full well that I would eventually make it through and past that miserable time. There was simply no way I could idle down and keep my brain from first generating and then fixating on that thought that I'd finally be released if everything were to just shut down.

The thing is, sometimes this stuff and these kind of thoughts just happen as part of the disease process. It can't always be helped. There isn't any need to feel embarrassed about going through this. It also doesn't mean that you're weak. It just means that you're human, with the capacity to feel. It can get scary at times, but you'll get past it. Your will to do that is much stronger than it seems, and it will see you through. It's obvious that you're well aware of the things you have to live for, even in the midst of the worst of things. Don't beat yourself up over it.



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Laura. I feel so bad for you. I do understand you'r pain. And I understand you'r train of thought in the heat of the moment. The thing I'am grateful for is that you talked about it. That is A very good thing. If you were serious you wouldn't be talking. I know the pain can be so bad the easy way out can creep into you'r thought's. Marietta has done the same thing. But I know you love you'r family. That love, That bond is stronger than the pain. Actually I'am proud of you for having the courage to admit the thought's that went through you'r mind. I've read storie's about war Vets. that were wounded and in unbearable pain. Thier answer is alway's the same. The pain was so bad I felt like dieing, But I wouldn't give up. I wanted to see my family again. I refused to die in this misrable place. We are not that far removed from the same situation sometime's. Man this stuff upset's me. Now I'am getting teary. But that's okay. call me A sissy. I feel you'r pain though. I see you as A friend. I don't have A lot of those. I don't like my friend's going through that kind of agony. May sound crazy, I'am glad though for the hard time's we've been through. It help's me understand so well how other's feel. You hang in there Laura. And as I'am sure you know you'r not alone. Never, Never give up. Be praying and thinking about you friend. Tim
 
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Oh Laura, I am so sorry you went through that. I know exactly how you feel. In fact, it hit home so much, I cried. About a month ago, I had a really bad one. I tried the Maxalt to no avail. I did not have anything else to take, I was out of pain meds. So, I told my DH that I did not have any pain pills, but I had plenty of bullets, but that was ironic - becasue I only needed one of those!!! I DID NOT mean it. I was in desperation. But he did take the gun out of the house and I have not seen it since. Thank goodness for our DH's and our friends here, huh? To keep us going.

Like everyone else said, I think most of us have felt this way in our moments of desperation. I am glad it is not a lingering or daily thought for you and you have not given up hope. I am in about the same boat as you, with my migraines being chronic, and I know how hard it is to keep on trying this and that and not giving up. But that is what we are here for - to encourage and support. I don't know what I would do without everyone here.

I am glad the beast is beginning to subside for you.

Take care! Group Hug
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Originally posted by LauraM:
Teri & moderators: I understand if this post needs to be removed due to its sensitive nature….

On Sunday I had only been asleep for about 2.5 hours and woke up to sheer pain. I knew it was going to be a bad one and was caught off guard because I felt fine only hours ago. I took a Maxalt, prayed for myself (and for my family and you guys) and tried to sleep it off. An hour later, I took another Maxalt. I eventually fell asleep but was up again a few hours later in worse pain. I took Vicodan but it did nothing to relieve the pain.

By the time the sun was up, my head was in the toilet (something I normally don’t have to worry about). By now I am in tears and rocking back and forth in the bathroom the pain had become so intense.

DH came in and asked what he could do. (***the migraine spoke here, not the “real” me, so alerts are not necessary***) I told him I was finished with this pain and knew I could end it all very quickly. He left the bathroom and hid my gun from me because I was just so emotionally broken down he didn’t know what else to do besides listen to my rant, close the door so the other kids wouldn’t get scared, and rub my back and stay by my side.

I felt like I had hit rock bottom and was just sobbing and pulling on my hair and curled up on the bathroom floor. He wanted to take me to the hospital and I adamantly refused. I couldn’t move off the floor let alone climb into the car. Eventually, the “peak” subsided and I was able to do some deep breathing, “ending it all” far from my mind. I took phenagren to sleep and stayed in bed all day, still in pain.

I am in pain today but it is nothing compared to yesterday. I haven’t had a migraine like that in so long and pray that it doesn’t happen again for another long time. I can normally hold it together mentally and not talk about ending it all but when the pain gets to that point I mentally break down. Like the migraine has won the battle, not me. However, I am still fighting the war and will continue to do so.

Please understand, my boys have already lost their birth father in a motorcycle accident. I would never, never take my own life. It is not for me to decide when I die and hell doesn’t appeal to me. I would never want my kids or my husband to find me having taken my own life. I say all this because I don’t want everyone worried about my mental capacity. I am my back to my “normal” (whatever that is) self. Eeker

I created this post because, as embarrassed that I am to admit I would utter those words, I am sure that there are others of you out there who have done the same and I wanted to let you know you are not alone.

On the selfish side of it all, it helps to write down the feelings. Kind of like a mental release. It is also a reality check for me, it helps me put things back into perspective.

This is a disease, and not terminal as long as I take care of myself and continue to see my neuro and work on my treatment plan.

I have great kids, a great DH and all their love.

Thanks for listening. I am off to my cozy bed!


Sherry



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Aww, Laura. I so feel for you. And I can completely relate to your post. It was so courageous of you to post this, but I am so happy you did. I think a lot of us have been there, have had that horrid migraine that just won't go away, and is so bad you literally can't think about anything but the pain. When all your tools in your toolbox are useless to you. When it seems that anything is better than continuing one more second in pain.

I am also very glad that you are feeling better. None of us ever deserve to be in that much pain. If only the beast understood that.

Do keep taking care of yourself. Know that we are all here for you. And like everyone else says - don't give up.

Now some hugs for the road.
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Thanks again for feeling comfortable enough with us to share your true, honest feelings. It does help to know that I'm not alone.


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