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One of our forum members brought this book to my attention because this passage concerned her:

"Headaches come from invalidating the self . . . Forgive yourself, let it go, and the headache will dissolve back into the nothingness from where it came . . . Migraine headaches are created by people who want to be perfect and who create a lot of pressure on themselves. A lot of suppressed anger is involved..."

Oh, puhleeze!

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Lol, thanks! I need a good laugh today! I knew all that suppressing I was doing was bad for me Skillet.
 
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LOL! You're welcome.

Did you notice that I didn't suppress anything when I wrote that review? Big Wink



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Oh geez. I see the author must be a student of John Sarno.


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A lot of suppressed anger is involved.


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Um - I guess everyone is entitled to their own thoughts...and I guess everyone is allowed to write a book about them.....but to say that people get migraines/AIDS because of sexual fear???? I just say what the heck? Big Wink)

If I had known all this time that all I had to do was think positively and let things go....I could have saved myself and my family a crap load of money on therapy, drugs, copays, doctors, ER visits -

What a crock!

Thanks for making me laugh Teri!


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Originally posted by Teri Robert:
One of our forum members brought this book to my attention because this passage concerned her:

"Headaches come from invalidating the self . . . Forgive yourself, let it go, and the headache will dissolve back into the nothingness from where it came . . . Migraine headaches are created by people who want to be perfect and who create a lot of pressure on themselves. A lot of suppressed anger is involved..."

Oh, puhleeze!

Read the full review.


OH YEAH?! YOU THINK I'M ANGRY? Razzer Hmm... Let me try validation. I love me, I love me. I am smart enough, and brave enough, and... Meh. No, that didn't work. Oh well. But the Frova did solve that migraine left over from last night. ANd the supressed anger? Only at my insurance company, my friends!


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Funny you guys should be talking about this...

I had a close friend who was a prof at the University I attended. He was a wonderful, devout man who just gave off an aura of happiness and positivity. Everyone enjoyed being around him!

Well, he was found to have cancer. And by the time the doctors found it, the cancer was all through his body. There was nothing they could do for him.

He told me often that he strongly believed in God and was not afraid of death. He was just praying for relief from all the pain...

Anyway, a priest (another prof at the University) came to visit him once when I was there. He told my friend that faith and belief were the most powerful healers that existed. He told my friend that if his faith was strong enough, he would get better. And from then on, when he came to visit he always made a point of telling my friend that he needed to pray harder, believe more if he wanted the pain to go away and if he wanted healing.

There was a real accusatory, judgmental feeling to the things this man was telling my friend. And he KEPT implying that my friend was not a good enough Catholic or he would've already been healed.

Eventually, he passed away from the cancer. But he told me on many occasions that he forgave this man for the things he was saying and that he didn't believe him anyway. He said he knew this priest just felt helpless seeing him that way and was looking for something to hold onto...

Anyway, if anyone ever said those things to me, I think I'd flip!! Absolutely, there ARE emotional aspects to every illness! Heck, we're all human and we all have thoughts and feeligs that are connected to our health!! But to assume that we can just "fix" them if we think properly, feel properly, or believe properly...UGH!

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How many people would believe that broken bones could be healed by positive thinking?

There are some strange theories out there.
 
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Confused Hello to All,

The example of the minister was a different one from what I have in mind when I suggest to people that they keep their thoughts positive and be open to good things happening. The minister was somehow implying that the man with cancer was not a good enough Christian, and this was why he was not getting better. I absolutely abhor this line of thinking, as it implies that people have to "do good works" to have a spot in heaven and/or to have a good life here on earth. I don't believe that being a good Christian has any bearing on whether or not your cancer will get better or get worse.

Let's take the same example of the man with cancer, only this time he keeps thinking things like, "I will have a positive outcome"; "I can alter the progression of my disease"; or "I am going to feel good, in spite of the cancer". Even if none of these things are true, it is good for the person to have these positive thoughts, because it will affect the way he feels on a daily basis. Just by virtue of thinking good thoughts, he has a better chance of feeling good feelings.

Here is an example that may make a little more sense,

The other day, I was in the emergency room, after taking an overdose of one of my medications. I had been demoted from a job that I loved, and I was in a deep state of self-loathing and worthlessness. I could only see the dark side of the work options available to me, and I just wanted to escape into a land of nothingness.

My son, ever the optimist, was trying to cheer me up by saying encouraging things about giving it another try and it wouldn't be so bad once I actually got there; I would have a new boss, and I should give that person a chance. Well, I wasn't buying any of this, and I became even more forlorn. Then, in the middle of saying something fairly serious, my son popped up with one of my favorite comical imitations that he does, of a well-known local politician. Well, it just about tickled the heck out of me. I started to smile and then, my son added another one of my favorite imitations that he does. I began to laugh and then he added yet another voice that I like. We were very nearly rolling over from the humor of the situation, and it felt so good.

Still, my son was not finished. He proceeded to take out his IPOD and had me listen to a song that was a favorite of his and mine from before I got admitted into the state hospital last year. It invoked all kinds of positive memories of a time when things were finally being worked out for me. He finished by playing another song that we both had just discovered that the other liked - a tune by Aha, called Take Me On. We were pumping our arms to the upbeat tempo of the song and pretty soon, I felt better. I felt so much better, in fact, that I told the doctor I wanted to be discharged and go home. They had previously said I should be admitted into the psych ward.

My son and I came home, and I proceeded to take a short nap and then got all of my Sunday chores done. We talked for hours that day, and between the two of us, we came to see that my demotion was not such an awful thing after all.

This is the kind of thing I am talking about. Each person may have their own set of things that gets to their "funny bone", but in this case, what my son did worked for me. Rather than looking at a prolonged stay in a psych ward, I am now preparing to go back to work tomorrow, to face my work life as a demoted supervisor. I am ready for the challenge and, in many ways, I feel like I will be a better employee because of the experience I had as a supervisor.

I am just saying that it is always a good idea for us to keep ourselves open to positive things happening. If we are so down and closed off to something good happening, it could be right there in front of our faces and we might miss it. And just so you know - I had told my son at an earlier time, when I was not depressed, that he should try one of his voice imitations on me, if I became depressed and see if that would help me out. We found out that it did, and I am in a much better space because of it.

I hope that this can be a source of inspiration to some of you reading my post. Had I not purposefully set it up to where I might be affected by something positive happening to me, I might have been completely closed off to the idea.

It would have been a real shame (not to mention a costly hospital stay) to not have seized that moment that was offered to me by my son.

Kay
 
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Kay, I'm sorry to hear this. I'm glad you're ok and glad your son could help.

You know if you ever need anything you can come here.


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The other day, I was in the emergency room, after taking an overdose of one of my medications. I had been demoted from a job that I loved, and I was in a deep state of self-loathing and worthlessness. I could only see the dark side of the work options available to me, and I just wanted to escape into a land of nothingness.


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Boy, Kay, I'm sorry you had to go through all of that. How wonderful that you are blessed with such a terrific son who knows just what to say when you need him! Putting a positive spin on thing was very helpful to you--thank goodness!!

I think I get the difference you are pointing to...But here are some more of my thoughts: My friend exhuded positivity, even at his sickest. When I left after visiting him, he made ME feel better about things, even when he could barely speak and couldn't get out of bed. I think positive thinking was EXTREMELY important to him and to his health! He lived much longer than the doctors though he would--and I really do believe that his positivity helped in that regard. He always said things like, "I'm planning to have a good day today," or "Cancer? Who cares about cancer? I have good friends and it's a beautiful day today!"

I think my concern about this issue comes from the judgmental tone of the priest who visited him. The implication the priest made that my friend's faith, belief, and positive thinking about his life were not strong enough made me REALLY angry! I really don't know ANYONE with faith as strong as my friend's! And he ALWAYS had something positive to say, even when it was clear that his pain was UNBEARABLE! Just because he didn't get better doesn't mean he wasn't positive enough!

I guess I'm saying that we do agree. And I completely believe in the power of positive thinking. Thinking good thoughts is very important and can make a BIG difference in difficult times. I know in my own situation, if I wake up and think "I'm getting a bad mig today--it's gonna be a BAD day," then it usually is! But if I think to myself, "I feel a little bit of pain today, but I'm sure it'll get better," then I have a better chance of fending off the pain. I just don't believe in judging someone who doesn't get better--this doesn't mean he didn't think enough positive things! I believe that there are just some things that can't be "cured" by thinking positively.

Anyway, I'm sending out some hugs and prayers for you! Group Hug Angel I'm hoping that this change in your work will have a positive effect on your life. And thank you for sharing your story with us. I know it sure made me think! I hope today is a wonderful day for you--you sure deserve it!

Heartjenny
 
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What a flippin' joke!!! I bet the author has never had a migraine before!!!!
 
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Kay,

Please know that we are here for you if you need us. Hang in there, and thanks for sharing your story.
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Originally posted by nakesnude:
Confused Hello to All,

The example of the minister was a different one from what I have in mind when I suggest to people that they keep their thoughts positive and be open to good things happening. The minister was somehow implying that the man with cancer was not a good enough Christian, and this was why he was not getting better. I absolutely abhor this line of thinking, as it implies that people have to "do good works" to have a spot in heaven and/or to have a good life here on earth. I don't believe that being a good Christian has any bearing on whether or not your cancer will get better or get worse.

Let's take the same example of the man with cancer, only this time he keeps thinking things like, "I will have a positive outcome"; "I can alter the progression of my disease"; or "I am going to feel good, in spite of the cancer". Even if none of these things are true, it is good for the person to have these positive thoughts, because it will affect the way he feels on a daily basis. Just by virtue of thinking good thoughts, he has a better chance of feeling good feelings.

Here is an example that may make a little more sense,

The other day, I was in the emergency room, after taking an overdose of one of my medications. I had been demoted from a job that I loved, and I was in a deep state of self-loathing and worthlessness. I could only see the dark side of the work options available to me, and I just wanted to escape into a land of nothingness.

My son, ever the optimist, was trying to cheer me up by saying encouraging things about giving it another try and it wouldn't be so bad once I actually got there; I would have a new boss, and I should give that person a chance. Well, I wasn't buying any of this, and I became even more forlorn. Then, in the middle of saying something fairly serious, my son popped up with one of my favorite comical imitations that he does, of a well-known local politician. Well, it just about tickled the heck out of me. I started to smile and then, my son added another one of my favorite imitations that he does. I began to laugh and then he added yet another voice that I like. We were very nearly rolling over from the humor of the situation, and it felt so good.

Still, my son was not finished. He proceeded to take out his IPOD and had me listen to a song that was a favorite of his and mine from before I got admitted into the state hospital last year. It invoked all kinds of positive memories of a time when things were finally being worked out for me. He finished by playing another song that we both had just discovered that the other liked - a tune by Aha, called Take Me On. We were pumping our arms to the upbeat tempo of the song and pretty soon, I felt better. I felt so much better, in fact, that I told the doctor I wanted to be discharged and go home. They had previously said I should be admitted into the psych ward.

My son and I came home, and I proceeded to take a short nap and then got all of my Sunday chores done. We talked for hours that day, and between the two of us, we came to see that my demotion was not such an awful thing after all.

This is the kind of thing I am talking about. Each person may have their own set of things that gets to their "funny bone", but in this case, what my son did worked for me. Rather than looking at a prolonged stay in a psych ward, I am now preparing to go back to work tomorrow, to face my work life as a demoted supervisor. I am ready for the challenge and, in many ways, I feel like I will be a better employee because of the experience I had as a supervisor.

I am just saying that it is always a good idea for us to keep ourselves open to positive things happening. If we are so down and closed off to something good happening, it could be right there in front of our faces and we might miss it. And just so you know - I had told my son at an earlier time, when I was not depressed, that he should try one of his voice imitations on me, if I became depressed and see if that would help me out. We found out that it did, and I am in a much better space because of it.

I hope that this can be a source of inspiration to some of you reading my post. Had I not purposefully set it up to where I might be affected by something positive happening to me, I might have been completely closed off to the idea.

It would have been a real shame (not to mention a costly hospital stay) to not have seized that moment that was offered to me by my son.

Kay
 
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Wow, this is the most inspiring story I've heard in a long time. Thank you for sharing it. I won't forget it anytime soon. I'm glad you're okay, and that you're doing better. Flower

quote:
Originally posted by nakesnude:
Confused Hello to All,

The example of the minister was a different one from what I have in mind when I suggest to people that they keep their thoughts positive and be open to good things happening. The minister was somehow implying that the man with cancer was not a good enough Christian, and this was why he was not getting better. I absolutely abhor this line of thinking, as it implies that people have to "do good works" to have a spot in heaven and/or to have a good life here on earth. I don't believe that being a good Christian has any bearing on whether or not your cancer will get better or get worse.

Let's take the same example of the man with cancer, only this time he keeps thinking things like, "I will have a positive outcome"; "I can alter the progression of my disease"; or "I am going to feel good, in spite of the cancer". Even if none of these things are true, it is good for the person to have these positive thoughts, because it will affect the way he feels on a daily basis. Just by virtue of thinking good thoughts, he has a better chance of feeling good feelings.

Here is an example that may make a little more sense,

The other day, I was in the emergency room, after taking an overdose of one of my medications. I had been demoted from a job that I loved, and I was in a deep state of self-loathing and worthlessness. I could only see the dark side of the work options available to me, and I just wanted to escape into a land of nothingness.

My son, ever the optimist, was trying to cheer me up by saying encouraging things about giving it another try and it wouldn't be so bad once I actually got there; I would have a new boss, and I should give that person a chance. Well, I wasn't buying any of this, and I became even more forlorn. Then, in the middle of saying something fairly serious, my son popped up with one of my favorite comical imitations that he does, of a well-known local politician. Well, it just about tickled the heck out of me. I started to smile and then, my son added another one of my favorite imitations that he does. I began to laugh and then he added yet another voice that I like. We were very nearly rolling over from the humor of the situation, and it felt so good.

Still, my son was not finished. He proceeded to take out his IPOD and had me listen to a song that was a favorite of his and mine from before I got admitted into the state hospital last year. It invoked all kinds of positive memories of a time when things were finally being worked out for me. He finished by playing another song that we both had just discovered that the other liked - a tune by Aha, called Take Me On. We were pumping our arms to the upbeat tempo of the song and pretty soon, I felt better. I felt so much better, in fact, that I told the doctor I wanted to be discharged and go home. They had previously said I should be admitted into the psych ward.

My son and I came home, and I proceeded to take a short nap and then got all of my Sunday chores done. We talked for hours that day, and between the two of us, we came to see that my demotion was not such an awful thing after all.

This is the kind of thing I am talking about. Each person may have their own set of things that gets to their "funny bone", but in this case, what my son did worked for me. Rather than looking at a prolonged stay in a psych ward, I am now preparing to go back to work tomorrow, to face my work life as a demoted supervisor. I am ready for the challenge and, in many ways, I feel like I will be a better employee because of the experience I had as a supervisor.

I am just saying that it is always a good idea for us to keep ourselves open to positive things happening. If we are so down and closed off to something good happening, it could be right there in front of our faces and we might miss it. And just so you know - I had told my son at an earlier time, when I was not depressed, that he should try one of his voice imitations on me, if I became depressed and see if that would help me out. We found out that it did, and I am in a much better space because of it.

I hope that this can be a source of inspiration to some of you reading my post. Had I not purposefully set it up to where I might be affected by something positive happening to me, I might have been completely closed off to the idea.

It would have been a real shame (not to mention a costly hospital stay) to not have seized that moment that was offered to me by my son.

Kay
 
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Teri! You made my heart jump in my throat for A second. Then I seen the Puhleeze part. Been through too much of that kind of stuff. Don't scare me like that.

The stuff about not being good enough to be healed. No one is good enough, Nor ever will be. We are good enough for God to love us though. I don't know how and why God work's exactly. I do know God has been with us through the year's. I don't think you will see too many pessimistic comment's from me. it's because I refuse to accept anything less than hope for A better tomorrow.

Sometime's that's all you got. And I won't let go. I won't let go for marietta's sake. She can't think thing's through as well as she would lke to. And the faith thing. I don't know A lot but I do know this.

Hebrew's 11/1 Faith is the substance of thing's hoped for, The evidance of thing's not seen.

Notice the word Hope. No one has the faith one's would say we should have. We are human's. Flesh and blood. Just hang onto hope even if we don't see the the evidance, or proof. I've had day's when death seemed better than than life. But God kept hope inside me. And here I am able to talk about it. And where would marietta be if I just gave up?


Man you folk's get inside my heart. Bring out thing's that I would normally keep stuffed inside.
 
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