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Comorbid conditions are conditions that occur at the same time as but independently of each other. With Migraine disease, perhaps the most common comorbid condition is major depressive disorder (clinical depression). Approximately 47% of Migraineurs also experience major depressive disorder, but neither causes the other.

Comorbid conditions can have significant impact on effective treatment of the individual disorders. Thyroid diseases, including hypothyroidism, are among the conditions now know to often be comorbid with headaches and Migraines. A strong connection has been found between hypothyroidism and new daily persistent headache (NDPH) and chronic Migraine.

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The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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Undiagnosed subclinical hypothyroidism is a huge problem according to Mary Shomon who is a thyroid patient advocate.

Teri, your article is one more example of why a doctor who LISTENS TO HIS OR HER PATIENTS is worth a million dollars, or more. Yes







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MW,

Mary is a good friend and my main source of Thyroid information. Since I don't work for About any longer, I confess that I use her personal site more than her About site (http://www.thyroid-info.com).

Dr. Krusz is big on checking thyroid levels in Migraine and headache patients. He treats me for hypothyroidism.

Thanx



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The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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You're welcome, DD!

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The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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While in the hospital they said my thyroid tests came back abnormal (I can't remember the exact words, but I know things were off). I really should get to the doctor and be looked at again...I just keep putting it off. Sigh.


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Make sure they run the right tests. Most doctors only run the TSH, and that really does NOT tell the whole story.

If you want great info on thryoid, try http://www.thyroid-info.com. That's Mary Shomon's site, and she's wonderful

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While in the hospital they said my thyroid tests came back abnormal (I can't remember the exact words, but I know things were off). I really should get to the doctor and be looked at again...I just keep putting it off. Sigh.



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The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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Awesome, Teri, thank you. I will definitely look into it. I have no idea where to start with thyroid research, at least with migraines I had a base to go off of. This should help a lot. Smiler


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You're very welcome. Mary has written several of the "Living Well" books including Hypothyroidism, Graves Disease, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia. It was her help and encouragement that helped me finally get a diagnosis after literally 10 years of not being able to get a doctor to listen to me.

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Awesome, Teri, thank you. I will definitely look into it. I have no idea where to start with thyroid research, at least with migraines I had a base to go off of. This should help a lot. Smiler



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The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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Leeloo ~

Just as Teri's book is my migraine Bible, Mary Shomon's books are my thyroid Bible. I've got five of her books, and every single one is top-notch. I can't recommend them highly enough.



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Thanks Droolie. First off, I have to get an appointment. Would you guys recommend an endocrinologist or a visit to a GP first? I don't think I need a referral so I can just call them and have my cardiologist fax the blood work results over.

Once I have some clearer answers I will then start purchasing some books. I'd hate to be hinging on a disease I may or may not have until I know for sure what's going on.

I do have to say though, from a cursory perusal of the site I can see some symptoms that would explain a lot...I don't know. Part of me keeps putting an appointment off because that's just one more doctor and maybe more pills to take. I'm just tired of it all, really. Answers are nice, but there comes a point where you want to shut it all out...And I know from a health perspective that's not the right position to take.

But like I said, I don't know for sure yet. I guess I'd better suck it up and just do it already! Wink


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Leeloo,

It depends so much on the doctor that I don't really know if going to an endo would make any difference. My GP agrees to treat me, set a target range for my blood levels, and started me on a dose of meds that she said we'd increase in three months. She wanted to take it slowly because of my heart. When I had my blood work three months later, the results were no closer to the target numbers, but she refused to up my meds -- told me to go to an endo. Well, there is NO endo here, and I have enough out-of-town doctors without adding a new one. Well, I would, but my Migraine doctor is going to treat my thyroid.

There's a lot of controversy, even among endocrinologists about what the "normal" ranges really are at what levels people should be treated.



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The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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I remember when I was first diagnosed with hypothyrodism my neuro said my migraines might actually improve with the synthroid treatment, as the hormonal imbalance can trigger migraines.

As for an actual link to my thyroid levels and migraine pattern, well, it would be one of those triggers I am unaware of if it is there. I do know that even though my thyroid levels are dandy, I still get bouts where I am very symptomatic (intense fatigue, sleeping issues, heart flutters and of course rapid weight gain). So it seems to be an ebb and flow with it, which is a real drag for me, because it seems every year I have to re-do my whole wardrobe for work, which is a tad pricy.

Oddly enough, I have always thought my migraines ebb and flow too... as in every two years they are chronic daily and nothing seems to work, then abruptly something works and they go down to ten a month or so, then whatever I was taking abruptly fails and I am back to daily. So there could be hormonal triggers that are part of that equation. I am now getting daily migraines, and bothersome thyroid symtpoms (and yes, just went shopping for work clothes). I decided to go on a thyroid suplement, that helps convert T3 in T4, hoping it might allievate these symtpoms.... and so for no luck, but hoping, because when the thyroid goes out of whack I have to deal with the most abrupt and intense depression, days a time, just irrational and deeply depressed and then fine and then not so fine again... it is very tiring mentally.

In my case I also have FMS as comorbid with my migraines, which in many ways can be a trigger to deal with. Mostly my sensativity to light, sound and ordors... which are also migraine triggers. And the neck pain, which is also a trigger. The sleep deprivation... big ol trigger there. While other FMS symptpms just mimic aura symptoms, confusing whether I am in the aura stage of the game, or having a bad fibro fog day.
 
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Here's another connection I see -- Thyroid issues definitely stress the body, and when the body is stressed, we're more susceptible to all our triggers.

Just a thought.

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I remember when I was first diagnosed with hypothyrodism my neuro said my migraines might actually improve with the synthroid treatment, as the hormonal imbalance can trigger migraines.

As for an actual link to my thyroid levels and migraine pattern, well, it would be one of those triggers I am unaware of if it is there. I do know that even though my thyroid levels are dandy, I still get bouts where I am very symptomatic (intense fatigue, sleeping issues, heart flutters and of course rapid weight gain). So it seems to be an ebb and flow with it, which is a real drag for me, because it seems every year I have to re-do my whole wardrobe for work, which is a tad pricy.

Oddly enough, I have always thought my migraines ebb and flow too... as in every two years they are chronic daily and nothing seems to work, then abruptly something works and they go down to ten a month or so, then whatever I was taking abruptly fails and I am back to daily. So there could be hormonal triggers that are part of that equation. I am now getting daily migraines, and bothersome thyroid symtpoms (and yes, just went shopping for work clothes). I decided to go on a thyroid suplement, that helps convert T3 in T4, hoping it might allievate these symtpoms.... and so for no luck, but hoping, because when the thyroid goes out of whack I have to deal with the most abrupt and intense depression, days a time, just irrational and deeply depressed and then fine and then not so fine again... it is very tiring mentally.

In my case I also have FMS as comorbid with my migraines, which in many ways can be a trigger to deal with. Mostly my sensativity to light, sound and ordors... which are also migraine triggers. And the neck pain, which is also a trigger. The sleep deprivation... big ol trigger there. While other FMS symptpms just mimic aura symptoms, confusing whether I am in the aura stage of the game, or having a bad fibro fog day.



Teri Robert
Lead Expert, MyMigraineConnection
terimmc@helpforheadaches.com




The generally long periods of time between my Migraines are the result of working with a Migraine specialist to refine my preventive regimen. You can see my current regimen HERE.

 
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I can agree with that. Just emotional stress, the horrible mood swings that come with hypothyrodism, can really mess with me. But, definately the physical strain on the system can throw my migraine pattern off.

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Here's another connection I see -- Thyroid issues definitely stress the body, and when the body is stressed, we're more susceptible to all our triggers.
 
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