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I haven't had a bad one since August 27th!!!!!! I am on track to set a record between bad ones. I had four days of minor migraines last week - I don't mind them though - not extremely painful and no nausea (they just annoy me).
I've been giving all the credit to the preventative cutting down the number of bad ones that hit. Now I'm thinking a lot of my grape theory as (I prefer frozen green seedless  ). I haven't had single grape since the last bad migraine - 1 month and 11 days ago.I'm on the fence about the grapes though since the last bad migraine day I had grapes in the morning just to get some nutrients because I knew I was going to be in bed within a couple hours and throwing up. So I can't be sure. (Grapes weren't even on the radar when we went through the If my grape theory is accurate: Also - I know I've eaten grapes a whole lot more than the number of bad migraines that hit me. Can it be that just some times it sets one off and not all the time? (at its peak I was getting one about once a week). Maybe its not grapes itself but something relating to that specific batch? And why would a grape triggered migraine be so much worse (and different) than the ones I got before the bad ones started appearing? Deep Thought: I often wonder how the brain decides how it picks a trigger. Especially when its things I love and I can't have them anymore. What do you guys think???? Karrie |
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Maven |
Try the grape.. I know it is not a pleasant thought to risk a migraine, but that is how the elimination (or whatever it is called) diet works. You eleminate the possible trigger food for a month or two and then you reintroduce it. Only then you will now for sure.
Have an abortive ready, prepare yourself and try. (I don't know how willing would I be to tell you the truth.) Eva  |
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If I had an abortive that worked I would probably try it. The day in bed and the throwing up isn't worth it. Who knows if I stay away from grapes maybe it will be two months, three, four maybe forever without one ever again. (too optimistic???).
I think the day I hit two months - October 27 - w/o one - I'll bite the bullet and go crazy on grapes I have two new abortives ready to try - axert and imitrex nasal spray. I'm not too eager to check and see if they work. |
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I'm with Eva. The only way to know about the grapes is to reintroduce them now that you've been away from them.
And yes, it is possible to have some triggers that trigger you sometimes and not others. Aspartame is my chief example of this. Soda wtih aspartame will trigger me just about every single time. Same with gum that contains it. What's weird, though, is that while sugar free pudding will always trigger me if it's vanilla, I seem to be less likely to trigger if it's chocolate. Normally I avoid anything with aspartame like the plague, but occasionally something slips by in a recipe and I find out about the aspartame after the fact (usually as my brainbucket gets slammed.  Dragondrool Forum Moderator ~~8=:>>>> |
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Maven |
So try the Axert and Imitrex NS when you have a migraine (you mentioned that you did not have a big one since you stoped eating grapes, so try them with a milder one). Maybe you will feel more confident when you know you have an abortive that works. And if you don't want to find out - don't
 Eva |
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I agree - frozen seedless green grapes rock! MMMMM!!!! I think if you like them - you should try them again. Then you will know for sure.
And yeah - How does the brain decide what will be a trigger? I am just happy I've only found a few....and the few I found I can stay away from....except red wine - I love it. I don't really drink anymore though. Ever since going on Topamax - I get hammered in like a half a drink!  Yes, ladies and gents: Topamax made me a lightweight! Plus - I hate the hangover migraine!OOhh you know what I just thought of that's really good though? White wine with frozen green grapes in it! (sorry - but really good!)
Eileen Gray Community Moderator eileen@helpforheadaches.com "The most authentic thing about us is our capacity to create, to over come, to endure, to transform, to love and to be greater then our suffering." - Ben Okri Please donate!!! Click below to donate to the AHDA - THANK YOU!!! http://www.networkforgood.org/pca/Badge.aspx?badgeId=102755 my blog: http://fireinmybrain.blogspot.com |
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Maven |
Good idea Eileen... we will add it to the Champagne and frozen strawberries we love so much..
 Eva |
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Community Moderator Guru |
ok we've totally detoured but you know what else is really good - raspberry belini's - it's Champagne with mashed up raspberries that have a little sugar in them and you put the raspberry mix in the bottom of the glass then pour the champagne over it......so so good!
Eileen Gray Community Moderator eileen@helpforheadaches.com "The most authentic thing about us is our capacity to create, to over come, to endure, to transform, to love and to be greater then our suffering." - Ben Okri Please donate!!! Click below to donate to the AHDA - THANK YOU!!! http://www.networkforgood.org/pca/Badge.aspx?badgeId=102755 my blog: http://fireinmybrain.blogspot.com |
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MMC Lead Expert Supreme Guru  |
Karrie,
Triggers can be cumulative or, as Dr. Jan Brandes says, stackable. That means that we can have triggers that are "weaker," not strong enough to trigger a Migraine unless we encounter them along with another trigger. Let me give you an example -- with my current preventives, one night of messed up sleep won't trigger a Migraine, but if that happens at the same time as a weather front moves through with its barometric pressure changes, I'm doomed. Does that make sense? Maybe grapes are like that for you.
 Teri Robert Lead Expert, MyMigraineConnection terimmc@helpforheadaches.com
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Community Moderator Guru |
I thought about the stackable tigger thing too....also isn't there something in the skin of the grape that gives people problems?
I usually peel them - I don't really know if it makes a difference though, but I thought I'd heard it somewhere..... Eileen Gray Community Moderator eileen@helpforheadaches.com "The most authentic thing about us is our capacity to create, to over come, to endure, to transform, to love and to be greater then our suffering." - Ben Okri Please donate!!! Click below to donate to the AHDA - THANK YOU!!! http://www.networkforgood.org/pca/Badge.aspx?badgeId=102755 my blog: http://fireinmybrain.blogspot.com |
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Maven |
I like the bucket analogy I have read in one book. When your bucket is full of triggers and spills, you'll get a migraine. Although most people do have triggers that would trigger a migraine 100% of the time. And some people have smaller buckets, some people have larger buckets and can get away with having more triggers around and in them. And so on. (Good book, not great, do not remember the name, since then I started wrtiting down the names with notes
)Eva |
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You will eventually figure out if the grapes are a trigger for you because one day you will eat one again. However, I thought I would mention that I am allergic to sulfites, a preservative usually put on foods to keep them from turning brown and keep them fresher longer. It just so happens that pretty much all commercial grapes (red & white) are sprayed with sulfur dioxide (a gas form of sulfites) to keep them fresher longer. It basically preserves the food to look better and prevents mold, fungus, etc on the grapes. Sulfites will give me a migraine very soon after ingesting them.
However, if it was the sulfites causing your migraines, you would have migraines at other times too, unless you somehow manage to avoid all sulfites. In addition, it might be the "stackable" amount of sulfites along with other triggers that is causing migraines for you too. Sulfites are found in many processed foods, including anything with apples (like apple pies, apple filling), dried foods and processed potato products, all wine-even organic, many cheeses, vinegars, and lots and lots of other foods. Grapes are one of the only fresh fruits that are almost always sprayed with sulfur dioxide. In addition, the lable won't usually even say so because the grower is usually not the person who usually packs the grapes into portions and puts them into bags to sell at the market. Nancy W |
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Maven |
Nancy,
how about organic grapes, they shouldn't be sprayed with anything? Eva |
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I am not sure about organic grapes, but Organic wine has sulfites for sure, just a lesser amount. If you are only slightly sensitive to sulfites, then you can probably comsume organic wine without trouble. Me, however, I am highly sensitive and try to avoid all sulfites if possible. No wine of any sorts--EVER. Not only will I get a migraine, but I have terrible gastro issues, hives, sweating, flushing, and fainting.
The only way to know for sure is to talk to both the grower, the processor, and anyone who could possibly spray the fruit after shipment to your store. It is unfortunate, but fish & seafood has the same issue for me. The people on the boat who catch the shrimp, crab legs, fish, etc usually immediately place their "catch" into what is called a "sulfite bath" or spray it will sulfites to keep the products from turning brown. If they stop the natural oxidation process, the food looks better and is easier to sell and get a better price. Many times, a seafood market that sells "fresh fish" doesn't even know that the food has been coated with this preservative. I have learned this the hard way, by trying the food and it is not worth the risk anymore. Nancy W |
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Maven |
Wow, you do know your triggers, good for your.
I love educated people. I am lucky, as far as the triggers go. I am not very sensitive. Or am I lucky? Hard to say, if you do have a few, you can eliminated them, get some relief, this way I am pretty much stuck. Heh. But, thanks. Amazing amount of information. I had no idea. Eva |
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