Chronic Pain

Good Evening All,

I'm starting to feel real sore where the the trigger point injections were given ... since they mix lidocaine with the cortisone, the pain is not that intense for a while (at least until the lidocaine where's off, which it has) ... the good news is that I should know if the shots work in about 1 to 3 weeks (that's at least what the doctor who gave me the injections said to me).

As far as my marriage goes, I hope that it works out AND maybe by Audrey going herself, it will work out better (like the way Betty is talking about her experience with Rod and marriage counseling) ... Audrey has really got me really guessing what's in store for us (her and me) with marriage ... I'm finally at the point where I can accept the future (of my marriage) as something that's not in my control ... my daydreams of going to Europe may become a reality BUT I'd prefer to have my marriage survive and see Europe with Audrey ... time will tell!

I hope that all of us have stress-free and low pain evenings and nights!

Mark

Good Evening my pain family

Today turned out to be a fairly decent day. Mr. Sun did finally decide to come out this afternoon and the temp got up to 50*, not too warm, but I wore a fleece and was comfortable.

Helen was doing really well in the days that I was gone, no big messes or problems or at least only minimul ones. She got the lint trap in the dryer in upside down and the lid did not shut, so her dryer blew lint all over the room and I did get that mess cleaned up. lol

Pain ramped up pretty high this afternoon and I really had to push myself pretty hard to get Helens groceries, but I'm very thankful that I made it and only have a couple of things to do tomorrow to get ready to leave for Seattle on Friday mornning.

Father is coming up to visit me tomorrow morning, so I'm looking forward to that too. I'll have some time to take a nap and I did not unload my suitcase & make up kit, so I just have to put my clothes I wore last weekend back in, I just washed the ones I wore and decided that I would leave it all the same as last week, so it would be easier on me and I would not have to figure out new outfits again. Sounds lazy, but that's chronic Pain & Fibro for ya. Seeking ways to survive two busy weeks, so I'm taking any short cut I can.

It's nearly bed time, so I'll see you all in the morning. I hope everyone had a really nice day and enjoyed some sun.

Good night family
Betty

Good day all .. hope everyone had a restful evening .. and if not , hope this morning you can get your levels to be minimal ...

I have to load my Jeep for the "Estate" sale , as they are calling it .. giggle .. and head over to my bros to pick him up by 9 ... we then will go to the warehouse and set up my stuff ..

He says I don't have to stay , but I may hang for a bit .. hoping to get some sales , as I am not bringing much , but would cover some costs ..

SO the reservations and packing materials are done, probably already said that,, but i repeat my self , like rainman when i get "happy" ...

And two more calls to make this week , and then the rainy butt weekend is all mine to just do ????

heehee .. clean , sort , vaccuum pack items , whatever !

Betty , as always you are a champion , and thank you for your inspiring words to my sharepost .. Chuck , hope you are getting to feeling better today and it ends up a nice enough day to walk Heidi a bit ...

Mark , I don't understand your situation , why does it seem like Audrey really doesn't want a divorce, nor do you .. yet if things are that bad or it is still on the table, why don't you just do it ?

Why are you waiting for Audrey to decide what she wants ? If she wants out , then that should be it ? If she doesn't and you are saying you want to preserve the marriage , then make it a dead issue already , and move on .. I am trying to understand this yo-yo thing .. and having been in Audreys' position, it is hard , when you get mixed signals from your partner ..

I still don't get the whole over-seas thing eother .. who cares what others , especially women you don't really know, like me, tell you to get divorced and come to Europe , or come to the UK .. being a woman, I still feel that if you love your wife and children , and you are wanting a marriage to work out, and it seems that the marriage therapist has nothing to offer and Audrey has all that on her .. something is missing here ?

Like we have talked about before , so this is not new what I am saying .. you have to stop saying one thing to Audrey , listen to what it is she needs , and I cannot believe by now that she hasn't expressed her needs .. and visa-versa .. and you are both on the fence .. it is confusing , at best , but something just seems to be missing in this puzzle ..

Of course we have discussed your take on Audreys' version, but as I have said , there are always 3 sides .. his, hers and the real story or truth .. anyway .. good luck with that .. but it doesn't seem to me to be getting anywhere ..

Well, enuff of my two cents , not that it matters , but it was just on my mind .. and i have no more thoughts on the subject as it seems a non-issue to me , it is you just biding time and it is your life , and you are not a child , so you can do or make a decision whenever you want .. good luck with that , and i promise , i will not say another word on this subject .. mums the word ...

As for Seattle, it sounds exciting , in fact it was on a show I was watching last night .. that tower thing always amazed me .. hope you get the best rest you can for this Mothers' Day event .. and that you gentlemen also enjoy the day , after giving birth is not as easy as it seems .. lol .. considering i have never had the pleasure , hee hee , just call me balabber mouth today !

Love to all ... A

Good Morning Friends

It's once again a cloudy morning here in the PNW, I think we are destined to over cast & grey skyes from now on. 42.9 out and I'm just hoping for Mr. Sun to burn his way through the clouds this afternoon.

Our good neighbors & us had about a 30 ft wide row of trees & thick underbrush between our homes, the neighbors wanted to cut up the wood from a couple of fallen trees from the winter, well it turned into a much bigger job for them and they ended up clearing the whole thing out. they're house is about 150yds away from one end of our house. Rod & I's bed room & bathroom are on that end, so now they can look out their front room picture windows right strait into our bed & bathrooms. Ugh So Now we have to be on constant watch & shut the blinds every time we change or anything in our room. We've lived here for 20 years and we've always had that block between us, so this is going to take some getting used to. I'm always so good with change! Heheehehe

I'm up early, as Father is coming to visit and I wanted to be fully awake & semi with it.
I'm doing pretty good considering all my activities, pain flare and the whole shabang of getting ready for another weekend in the city, so I'm gonna iron a couple of things this afternoon and put them back in my suitcase, so I'll be ready.
Matt sounds really excited to have us come spend the weekend with him, he has had a few troubles come up and we need to have a family discussion to decide what we should do about them, I'll be glad to just get it over with and make our new plans.

Yes Adrian, the Spaceneedle is kind of cool. It has a reataurant inside the bigger part at the top and the restaurant revolves around in a circle while you sit at your table, so you get a full view of the city at any table you sit at, as it goes one full round every hour. When I was a little girl, I went to the br and when I came back out my parents were not sitting at the same table I left from and I got really scared, cuz I did not know or understand that the table was moving. lol

I hope you all have a very nice day, I better go and get my am prayers over with (I'll remember all of my pain friends intentions)before Father gets here with Cummunion & mass prayers.

Hugs to you all and many warm thoughts
Have a Super Day
Betty

Good evening all - Hope everyday got to have a low pain day today .. and Betty , it must wierd now having your "backside" exposed .. giggle .. wow, was all that necessary to do ? Cleaning your yard too ? Shame , as it was the view for so many years and probably a source of real privacy , huh ?

The day started off chilly, but sitting outside selling at the rummage sale was nice .. made $25 , but it was only day one .. there was some nice old and unique things there ..

I got home around 1 , so 10-1 I was in the sun .. giggle .. and got a lite sunburn , and said I was primimg myself for FL ...

I have a lady coming tomorrow to look at some larger items here in the a.m. before I go back to the sale .. I figgured even if I don't sell much, it was worth just being out and meeting people .. it was nice ..

I did zonk out four 4 hours , heehee, as I cooked my dinner and by 2 , I was out ... so just finished up dinner and am going to put together some other stuff to take over to the sale ...

Will check in and see if anyone else had as nice a day as I did , or if not .. adrian

Greetings All,
A painful rainy day here in se ky, I just kinda layed around and read today. We've got rain and cool for the next few days, I recent;y joined the mystery book club so I have plenty of material.
My daughter was home today so she chased after Heidi all day, we did go to the park this morning and I pretty much payed for it but, it was fun. Gettin out of the house is worth it.
Anyway, I may be back later after meds.
Chuck

Good Evening All,

I'm still sore right now after yesterday's trigger point injections AND I haven't felt any relief at all from the injections YET ... the doctor who gave me the injections said that it could take up to anywhere from one to 3 weeks to feel any relief in my neck and back ... the pain of the injections is/was so intense that I think that I'd prefer to get general anesthesia and get whatever is wrong with me fixed with surgery ... well, the surgeon wants me to get 2 months of shots (which works out to one session every two weeks) ... the surgeon also thinks that 2 months will be enough time to tell if I should switch from shots to surgery, so time will tell.

I went to my eyeglass place today and the sales lady made a comment to me that has stuck in my head for the rest of the day: She said "Growing Older is not for the weak of heart" ... I guess that goes hand-in-hand with "only the Strong survive."

Oh well, as the author of "A Tales of Two Cities" said: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the times that tried men's souls" ... that's the kind of mood that I'm in right now ... I feel good, bad, and tormented all at the same time ... I'll just take it take by day, since that is the only strategy that works for me.

ttyl ... Mark

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Taking it day by day , sometimes is the best stratedgy .. the chances of goofing up are less , hee hee, for me anyway ...

So sorry you guys have such bad pain , those trigger point treatments i had myself .. and sometimes you just have to wait and see, i hope they work for you soon ..

Anytime out in the sun is good .. so Chuck , you had fun , and now you rest ..

I am saying , "Nite to all, sleep well, and hope we all wake to a less painful morning ....

A

Good Evening friends

It's been another busy day, but I'm all packed, had a very nice visit with Father and got a few more things done around the house.

My pain has been on a bit of a roller coaster today and I've had to constantly carefully pace, but I seem to still get fatigued and by tomorrow, I'm sure I'm going to be beat.

We'll leave for Seattle before noon, as Rod always likes to get on the road and leave in the morning, even though our motel room is never ready till after noon, he still likes to get where we're going and snoop around. I just hope the drive is not too painful, but once again, I've got my medicine and I can use more BT meds than I normally do, but have on hand when needed.
Matt get's outa school at 1:30pm on fridays, so he will be able to spend the evening with us too, swim in the pool with his dad and just play around. He said he won't have any homework and this is a perfect weekend for us to come up, cuz he does not have any obligations with the childrens hospital or the Red Cross, so his mom can have him to her self, well, I have to share him with dad & girlfriend, but that will do. smile
His girlfriend is staying up in Seattle, as her mom is coming up the next week and staying with her, so this mothers day I even get my girl too. I don't really feel complete anymore with out her, so I'm thankful it turned out.

As far as my pain/health situation goes, I'm really feeling some mental fatigue/pressure/anxiety the last few days. I know I'm pushing to go this weekend and we do have a few family issues going on of our own, Rods folks are having some troubles and Matt got some very bad news on schooling things, so I'm kind of in one of those states of holding back tears and cannot really pinpoint exactly why I need to cry? I'm pushing so hard and know in my mind & heart that I'm heading into a really bad flare and don't want to seem unappreciative or hurt Rod & Matts feelings and say NO, I can't go, cuz I'm gonna flare up really bad, as we all know that only fibro& pain patients can possibly understand what that means. I don't want to ruin Rods vacation either, he's worked on his parents roof all week and this is his weekend away too. Rod does not want to take any of the dogs with and I don't want to leave my poodle, as she really helps me to relax when I have anxieties, it's hard to explain, but she's my shadow and is with me all the time and I don't want to go without her. I'll probably have to say something and hopefully Rod will be fine with it.
Sorry for the gloom, I just have had a whole bunch of stuff that I keep stuffing down deep and it seems to be leaking out through the cracks.

Adrain, I'm so happy that you got out and socialized, made a few bucks and hope you make some more. Sounds like a nice spot for a rummage sale, I had one a few years ago and really did great. I had a ton of kids clothes in great condition and they really went fast. I bet the sun felt great! We're supposed to get temps in the nineties next week go figure? 50's to 90's????? I know sounds weird and it is, but there's been nothing normal about our weather for nearly a year. Global Warming??? somethings going on.

Chuck; Sometimes I wonder how we all survive this pain & suffering? You certainly get your share buddy, but I'm really thankful that your able to push on and still get out side for some time in the sun and can enjoy your little heidi playing for a time. Take Care Friend

Mark; I meant to ask you about the trigger point injections this am. I've not had them for trigger points, but I get the same injections in my spinal nerves and you betcha, they're painful. I'd rather give birth than go through them very often. As time goes by and you have another set, you'll start really having anxiety about knowing they are coming up. I've been doing them for a couple of years and alas, they do work, but for me it took a few times to begin helping and mine did not work until about 3 weeks until the past few that I've had. So hang in there buddy, I'll be thinkin of ya! The neck area seems like it would be extra painful too. OUCH!

Big Hugs for you all, I'm feeling better just talkin to you guys, but now I'm gonna go to bed and try to sleep.
Thank you all and I'll probably get hooked up to my wireless as soon as I get to the room.

Night! Sleep tight!
Betty

Good (?) morning all - wow, again up at 4 a.m. , but it's okay , kinda took that long nap yesterday ...

Prayed you all got a restful sleep, and have calm day ..

Betty, darlin', I know what you mean, and wish I know this, I am there mentally , to hold you up and relax a bit more ...

It is hard when outside issues tend to become so big .. let Rod do the thinking and most of the talking if that helps ... and my horrorscope said for me today I will be emotional , and so ? It is okay to express , so I will, it also said to be tactful and soft hearted with people today ... so, I will ...

As a rule , I look to these as guidelines for behavioral reasons only, not as a "have to" thing .. but when I also read the ones of those I know , like Mom's or John's .. I can get a "feel" for how my day will be .. and if one is touchy or moody , then I know how to react ..

Are we coming with you this trip ? I know what you mean about your babies, that is a subject I can't think about without getting my anxiety up, you know, with the upcoming move and them w/o me and visa-versa .. sigh ..

I will pray you have a nice time, and as always I am here if you need to get things off your chest or mind , okay ? I am sure the others will feel the same , w/o this "family" , I wouldn't have gotten so far ...

So, I am going to check back later ... again , hope y'all hang in there, as what is our alternatives ?

Love ya's - A

Good rainy morning all,
I was gonna complain about the weather but,
after seeing the damage left by some tornadoes aovernight I'm not going to.
I'm not sure how I would react over the trigger point injections, the cortisone goes against diabetes so it knocks me out of them.
They go right into one's spine?? If they deaden the area could one do more damage and not realize it??
Betty, nothing wrong with lettin Rod do they talking some. Things have a way of working them selves out wether we worry about them or not.
I know too that things tebd to creep in no matter what we do I have bouts of doom and gloom too. Just when I think I've gotten used to being at home and keeping my mind busy it'll get me. Why me?? But, then my little voice will say "why not me" and here I am. Hope that makes sense. Tom Petty says it really good in "I won't back down". I hope you enjoy your weekend and your pain to get too flared. Happy moms day!
Adrian, 4am again? More than once I've been out on the deck at 4 am listening to the quiet.
I'm fortunate in that i don't have many out side influences, If I'm having a real bad day I'm just real quiet and not talky as usual.
One day at a time is the way I try to be and trust to faith that he won't give me more than I can handle. Hope your rummage sale goes well and you make some mega bux.
Mark, any changes from the injections??
Chuck

Good morning Chuck - thanks for the well wishes , just loaded another few items in the Jeep .. it is to 80 today, so this time I am bringing shorts and wearing a t-top under my jacket .. giggle ..

I am sorry to for all the vitims everywhere , and so that is why i tend to not complain too much also .. God hears our thoughts , and that is why we start to think negative , til He lets us see what real pain and suffering is ..

Lol .. I don't care to make mega-bucks, but to just do better , as I am bringing the antique stuff today ...

Mark - I got your IM and it took me to a place I have never seen before and I couldn't log in .. I think I remember you said something in a post about it , but the IM comes up auto when I switch on the computer ...

Sure hope you don't think I wasn't aware , but when I came in with my coffee, it said photos , so I went .. but the screen was changed and I kinda got lost at 4 a.m. ... giggle ...

I agree with Chuck, Betty .. just take deep calm breathes, not gulps .. and try to relax your mind first, then as your breathing steadies , start to just think like you are floating on a big raft w/puppy and tall cool drink on nice calm waters in the warm , but not too hot, sun ..

I do this sometimes when i am sitting around, it is like meditation , but you have a choice of being aware just eyes closed and speaking calmly , or if you are like me, i can put myself to sleep .. giggle .. we love ya honey ...

Okay, waiting on lady now , so i am going to take my BT meds now , so I will be able to handle another 4 hours .... awww, poor me , out in the sun , yahooo !!!

Love to all !

Good Morning All,

Adrian, I've been getting instant messages too with weird links that won't open most of the time ... it's some type of virus that hijacks the contact list on MSN messenger AND because of this problem, I've been trying to leave my MSN messenger off most of the time ... I found that skype is much better for IM, video and voice only chatting AND it's free when calling another computer ... I can provide my user name if you or the rest of the gang is interested in trying out skype for IM's and chatting over video or voice ... I'm sorry that you've been the victim too of some hacker's weird sense of humor.

Mark

Hi all - gee Mark , that is not good and , no , i absolutely don't want to joing another chat forum .. it said Mark conversation , and in a blue had a link to new photos .. so you are telling us this now , that there is a problem with your im and we may get attcked ?

I am running a virus scan now and hope that it finds this file as it has great security for spam, malware, spyware etc ...

Anyway, bummer if it infected my computer , so Betty and Chuck , I hope you are hearing this ..

Anyway, I got home from the sale around 1 and did my thing with the dogs, they were very good , as usual ...

Ate some lunch and have dinner leftover from yesterday so I took my meds and will be "out" for a bit .. hopefully the scan finds whatever I received and I am gonna have to keep an eye out for any im from your end , as I never had this when i speak with Betty ..

Okay, well, I am sure I can get it straigtened out if it is a hijacker it then what, picks up Bettys' and Chucks' ??

Shouldn't have happened , as I have security up the wazoo .. annoying if this is true ..

I am tired and will see y'all later ...

Hey Adrian,

I first mentioned the MSN virus as soon as I knew about it (which was on May 7th) - here's part of my post:

"... so far, I like Skype better than MSN Messenger--since MSN has been sending viruses to me and others lately" - the lately part was on May 6h and May 7th.

Everyone, if you get a message on MSN that shows a link, please do not attempt to open it ... MSN is aware of the problem and they're trying to remove the trojan from the MSN Messenger Server ... good ol' Microsoft! ... I'm sorry about this and don't know how it happened other than please do not attempt to open any strange looking links.